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Gay Marriage in Virginia: Speaking for God -- And Man

Comments on our weekend Patch Poll focus largely on God v. Man, religious doctrine v. secular law. How about your views, Greater Alexandria?

When people want to have their say, they really want to have their say.

When Patch ran a poll on Sunday about whether it's time for gay marriage to be legal in Virginia, the comments came pouring in -- and that continues.

The poll ran on all 31 Patch sites in Virginia and D.C., and comments tended to lean toward what's called for in the Bible and religious doctrine versus what's called for in the Constitution and secular law.

"I'm not a homophobic but I am anti-gay marriage," commented Robert Marcum. "I think it goes against every religious and moral fiber this country was founded on. It's just one more way the liberals and this new generation is taking God out of everything. The bible says Jesus will return some day and I think he's going to be pretty ticked off."

C'mon, replied Heather Barber, in this way: "This country was not founded on any religious fiber - it was founded on the sole principle of protecting liberty of conscience and freedom and equality for all mankind."

So, that's part of the regional conversation. What do you say, Greater Alexandria? Is it about time to make gay marriage legal in Virginia? Tell us in the comments section below.

T. Suzanne Polson February 21, 2013 at 09:14 PM
Your right but also very wrong Heather Barber, this country wasn't founded on religion but it was founded on faith in our creator. You may need to reread the Constitution and find out who our forefathers were. Other than dates and names, there wasn't a lot we learned about them and it's sad. For instance, did you know that our forefathers were the ones that printed Bibles in America stating that they would be a wonderful addition to our schools, public schools that is? Furthermore, some of our founding forefathers sought pastors assistance in forming this, once, great nation. These pastors were all on staff and were called upon to read scripture and perform prayer prior to their daily meetings. Look it up and see for yourself~ Be smart America and educate yourself before you say things that aren't true~
RALPH JOHNSON February 21, 2013 at 10:40 PM
I AM SORRY BUT WE WIL NOT GIVE ONE INCH ON GAY MARRIAGE AND THAT IS WHAT OUR BIBLE TELLS US. THESE SO CALL EXPERTS WHO WANT TO TWIST THINGS TO THEIR LIKING. CHRISTIANS IF THEY ARE TRUE CHRISTIANS WILL NEVER EXCEPT THIS IMMORAL TYPE OF BEHAVIOR. JUST LIKE THEY DISRESPECT THE BIBLE SO BE IT.
T. Suzanne Polson February 22, 2013 at 12:52 AM
That is the most hypocritical statement I've ever heard, you are a true Christian but you don't have a problem disrespecting the Bible? What is that? I'm not your judge but it's people like you that leave room for chaos to ensue. Where do you draw the line on issues in life or do you even have one? Think of it this way, if you had a child that ran out into the street and were almost hit by a car, would you laugh about it and tell them they need to watch out for cars while they play in the street? Or would you tell them never to go into the street again because a car could hit them? It's called order and logic, it's there to protect us. Bible stands for Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth and scripture tells us we shouldn't add to it or take anything out of it. So when did you become God and where do you draw the lines as to what is acceptable and what isn't? You may not like his rules but just as you don't want your child to be hurt, God desires the same for each of us. I understand you have compassion for others and that is a wonderful attribute but you have to see that as a, Christian, your speaking blasphemy. That's not my judgement, it's His~ I'll pray for you Zoe~
Bradford Largent Sr February 22, 2013 at 01:32 AM
Zoe, I'll tell you who I am. I AM A REAL CHRISTIAN. The Bible clearly states that "Man is not to lie with man as he would a woman". Anyone who does is going to hell. Plain simple and to the point. If you wish to lie with someone of the same sex so be it no skin off my back but it will be skin off yours. Homo-Phobe, no I am not. Not afraid of them, I pity them. But when it comes to legal marriage "NO". Marriage is consecrated by God not man and GOD says NO the same as I do.
C.G.B. February 22, 2013 at 04:34 AM
Food for thought. Human beings wrote the Bible. Humans could have possibly interpreted meanings of words maybe... All I am saying as a God loving and believer in God that He made us all. I truly believe He loves us all with all our differences and it is He that will Judge His children. So who are we as simple mortals to judge others and their beliefs. Remember the saying, Judge not lest thee be Judge. I do have friends been with each other for 40 and 45 years, still caring, go to church, feed at soup kitchens and love God. They are good people and I say God bless them. It is not us who will decide Heaven or else where it will be our Saviour who will decide. I am grateful for that fact.
Aaron Ware February 22, 2013 at 05:49 AM
There are plenty of straight couples in this country who don't believe in God. Surely he did not consecrate their marriage. Should we take away their rights as well? Should we have to prove ourselves as Christians to the government in order to marry? I don't think so. This country was founded on religious freedom, and that includes freedom from religion as well. We have a separation of church and state for a reason. If you don't believe in gay marriage, then you shouldn't get gay married. So lets leave it on this note. Who does God accept more.....me for loving, or you for hating? In case you forgot, he has made us all and loves ALL his children. And besides, it's you straight people that keep having gay babies in the first place.
KS February 22, 2013 at 07:39 AM
I think it is disgusting you people condemn gays as if you are better than them. I was born and raised Catholic, and continue to practice my faith. Read the book of Romans. "God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." NO ONE is perfect, especially you hypocrites who condemn gay people. If you really believed in our loving and forgiving God, you would know that he created everyone with a plan. Just because their lives are different than your's, does not mean you have any right to restrict rights of theirs. "Hatred stirs up strife, but love covers all offenses." -Romans 10:12. Now get over yourselves all of you "non-homophobic" hypocrites.
KS February 22, 2013 at 07:39 AM
I think it is disgusting you people condemn gays as if you are better than them. I was born and raised Catholic, and continue to practice my faith. Read the book of Romans. "God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." NO ONE is perfect, especially you hypocrites who condemn gay people. If you really believed in our loving and forgiving God, you would know that he created everyone with a plan. Just because their lives are different than your's, does not mean you have any right to restrict rights of theirs. "Hatred stirs up strife, but love covers all offenses." -Romans 10:12. Now get over yourselves all of you "non-homophobic" hypocrites.
N.D.M. February 22, 2013 at 07:08 PM
NO! Bible clearly states " You shall keep yourself away from all sexual immorality!"...That is exactly what this is. Yes, we all are sinners, one sin is no greater or lesser then the other, HOWEVER, if you state that you are Christian and believer, regular church goer then ponder a bit on this verse " But you yourselves wrong and defraud even your own brothers! Do you not know that unrighteous, will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor theives, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the spirit of our God." I Cor.6:8-11 On another note, if we were to go along with this issue, then what is next "right and freedom"?! Marrying to underage children, getting it legal with "your " dog, and so on, and on! NO!
Aaron Ware February 23, 2013 at 12:20 AM
Oh, except for the fact that dogs cannot make decisions for themselves. That argument makes less sense than this whole debate. I don't remember voting on your rights. And why do we have so many versions of the bible anyway? This is the King James Version of that same passage. 1 Corinthians 6:8-11 King James Version (KJV) 8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren. 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. Nowhere do I see the phrase "nor men who practice homosexuality". So before you use scripture to fuel your faith-based argument, remember that there are many different versions that don't back up what you are trying to say. And who are you to say that your bible is better than mine? The decision that two people make to spend the rest of their lives together should not be brought up to a vote. These aren't just gay rights, these are humans rights. I bet opponents of interracial marriage in VA had the same thought. If we allow that, then what is the next "right and freedom"?
Logan Polson February 23, 2013 at 12:35 AM
Separation of Church and State has been twisted over the years. Those exact words aren't even written in the constitution, see for yourself. Thomas wrote the words "Separation of Church and State," in a letter to the church of Danbury. The patrons there were concerned about the wording of the 2nd Amendment and wanted to be sure their right to worship the way they chose wouldn't be subject to the governments powers. Thomas assured them their freedoms were protected and thus penned the now infamous line of Separation of Church and State. If Thomas meant those words in reverse, why did he attend Church at the State capitol building 2 days after he wrote them. Makes you think. You may want to rewrite the constitution but you can't rewrite scripture. Taking any of it out of context is a huge sin. We aren't to judge others but scripture does tell us to judge the actions of others justly so that we don't fall into others sins. All of you that say we shouldn't judge the gay man or woman are right, we all sin and fall short of God's glory, however, we aren't to glorify sin or make it lawful. God's words are just and we, especially we whom are Christians, should follow God's words. Loving others but keeping in line with God's word~

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